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7 Things I’ve Learned from Podcasting

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I published my first podcast episode in March of 2018. It was a rocky beginning, but it followed months of dreaming, thinking, and deliberation. I was finally taking action, and it was an exciting start.

I’ve published new episodes every week since. In some ways it’s been more of a challenging experience than I would have ever imagined. But I’m learning, improving my craft, and enjoying the process.

Why start a podcast based on interviews with educators?

One reason I began the podcast was to address what I saw as a hole in the education podcast space. There are many education podcasts currently available, but few that I found personally stimulating. I just wasn’t finding many real stories of real educators working in the trenches, partnering with their students, sharing the ecstasy of victories and learning from the agony of defeats. These stories were hard to find, and they weren’t being told in compelling ways.

I was also interested to find out what other educators are reading, listening to, connecting with, and depending on in their classrooms. What voices and resources are inspiring great practice? I continue to believe that I can bring these stories and testimonials to the education world in a way that will invigorate educators and lead to improved learning outcomes.

K-12 education is at an incredible place right now. Within the last decade, professional learning and networking has absolutely exploded, thanks largely to social media platforms like Twitter and Instagram. Today’s teachers, administrators, and influencers now have incredible opportunities to plug into rich, real-time pipelines of best practices, ideas, and exemplars from schools across North America and around the world. I’m energized by the idea that I might be able to play a useful role in building these networks of learning.

Another reason that I began the podcast was the powerful motivation I took from entrepreneurship thought leaders like Gary Vaynerchuk, John Lee Dumas, and Pat Flynn. Months of listening to these three voices in particular (and several other great podcasts) convinced me of two foundational ideas.

  • It is still possible to create content of value and significance. It’s easy to feel that in the the din of noise and distraction we hear and see online, there’s no opportunity or reason to add your voice. But the truth is that we all have content to offer, content that can add value to the marketplace of ideas.
  • Audio is about to get a lot, lot bigger. Although podcasts have been around for about 15 years, they’ve only started to go mainstream in the last five or so. In addition, the confluence of smart home devices (Google Home, Amazon Echo), rapid improvements in voice-to-text smartphone technology (Siri, Bixby, Cortana), and a societal shift toward on-demand infotainment (Netflix, YouTube) are all pointing to exponential growth in podcasting and audio publications in the very near future. It’s a good time to get in.

What I knew at the start

I didn’t know much about podcasting in the beginning. My primary resource was the hundreds of hours I’d spent listening to podcasts over the last ten years. I knew what I liked, what worked well, and what didn’t. I also watched a few how-to tutorials on YouTube to get a sense of what went into good interviewing and podcasting.

I had recently heard of a new app called Anchor. Anchor is a free podcasting platform that allows you to record and publish audio content in a matter of minutes. Unbelievably, Anchor also distributes your content across most podcast distribution platforms, including iTunes — all for free. Anchor looked like a good place to begin my audio publishing career.

One thing I didn’t have was a lot of expensive equipment. I had an iPhone 8 with earbuds, a Surface Pro computer with Adobe Audition, and a low-end microphone called a Blue Snowball. That was it.

I could have waited around before launching to gain more proficiency and acquire more knowledge and better resources. But I was keenly aware that many creators never actually create because they get caught in overthinking the process. Paralysis by analysis. And so I decided to just do this thing and learn as I went.

7 things I’ve learned from podcasting

  1. Embrace failures. Right from my very first episode, I’ve experienced more technical problems and glitches than I would have thought possible. At times, the Anchor app has crashed mid-interview, requiring me to reconnect with guests and ask them to repeat their last comments. Another phone-to-phone recording service has rendered in poor quality, and a laptop-to-laptop recording service has delivered inconsistent results as well. Every crash and recording glitch is discouraging and tempts me to pack it all in. But instead of quitting, I’ve learned to double down and stay the course.
  2. Always learn the craft. When I began this journey, I didn’t know the first thing about Adobe Audition — audio software I’d long owned but never used. The controls seemed overwhelming, and I wasn’t even sure how to import my audio — let alone edit it. But little by little, I’m learning and improving. By trial, error, and YouTube tutorials, I’m gaining confidence and expertise every time I edit an episode. Although the challenges don’t always feel good in the moment, it’s gratifying to look back and see how far I’ve come.
  3. Forgive yourself quickly. I’ve learned that after virtually every single interview, I’m going to have regrets. Why did I say that? Why didn’t I ask the guest this question? Why did I laugh so awkwardly? And on and on it goes. It’s important to recognize that regret and self-doubt can paralyze if we allow them to. I have to force myself to try to take something from my mistakes, shake them off, and move forward.
  4. Twitter is incredibly powerful. Professionals of any sort stand to benefit enormously from plugging into a vibrant professional learning network, and to that end, Twitter is king. In my first eleven months on Twitter as @TeachersOnFire, I connected with over 1,100 educators across the United States, Canada, Asia, and elsewhere. Many of my interviews have come from those connections. And I’m just getting started.
  5. Be content with incremental growth. Even though I get more listens and subscriptions to my podcast each week, growth is slow. I’ve learned not to expect the hockey stick curve and exponential growth rates that I experienced with my very first posts on Medium. And that’s okay. As long as growth continues, that means my ceiling is still an unknown quantity. And that’s motivation enough.
  6. People are generous. I’ve been amazed by the willingness of other education professionals to partner with me to prepare for and give a great interview. My requests are almost never declined — all it takes is an honest, humble, and respectful ask. Part of that might be a credit to the network-ability of the education community, but I suspect it’s also a function of human nature. You’ve just got to put yourself out there and ask.
  7. Real people and real stories make the best content. At the outset of the podcast, I had to choose between formats: monologue, interview, or a mix of both. It turns out that the interview format takes more work pre and post-production than one might think, but the content is exceptional. Guests offer a rich variety of experiences, perspectives, and suggestions — far more than I could possibly conjure up on my own. Best of all, every interview stimulates my own thinking and takes my learning in new directions. I’m directly benefiting from the process.

Podcasting hasn’t been all fun. Between contacting potential interviewees, scheduling and conducting interviews, editing audio, writing show notes, publishing, and promoting, each episode adds at least six hours a week for this little passion project — no small sacrifice.

But podcasting has been a fantastically positive journey. Every new episode and guest represents new things learned and a new relationship formed. I’m offering value to the education community and improving my own practice. Last but not least, I’m putting myself in uncomfortable spaces that force me to grow as a person.

And that’s reason enough to continue.

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10 Creative-Entrepreneurship Podcasts That You Should Be Listening To

Whether you’re investing in a serious side hustle, playing with a personal passion project, or building a small business, turn your commute into a daily motivation seminar by tuning in to these fantastic podcasts. Here are ten shows that I’ve come to know and love:

  1. Entrepreneurs on Fire. John Lee Dumas is the consummate host, interviewer, and teacher as he interviews business leaders and entrepreneurs on a daily basis. With a polished delivery, great sense of humour, and applicable strategies, every episode brings valuable insights and encouragement. JLD offers a host of free resources through his website and posts a new 20-minute episode every day.
  2. The Gary Vee Audio Experience. This guy comes with a serious language warning, but nobody matches Gary Vaynerchuk for sheer drive, intensity, and motivation. Extolling the virtues of patience, gratitude, and the still-underrated power of internet platforms, Gary reminds his audience that there has never been a better time in human history to build a scalable business and thrive. Length and style of content varies widely, from random 8-minute raw conversations to 50-minute conference addresses. New content is posted daily.
  3. The Fizzle Show. With weekly episodes coming out every Tuesday, hosts Chase Reeves, Corbett Barr, and Steph Crowder bring common sense perspectives and advice to the matters of building a successful side hustle or small business. Reeves brings the energy and humour, Crowder chips in with thoughtful perspectives, and Barr brings authoritative insights born from years of start-up experience. Listen to this trio for long and you can’t help but love them.
  4. The Tim Ferriss Show. Although not strictly limited to creative-entrepreneurship themes, no top ten list in this space would be complete without mentioning the Tim Ferriss Show. Tim is still one of the world’s top podcasters, publishing wide-ranging weekly interview content that consistently touches on business and entrepreneurship. Although I’ve learned to skip through the first five minutes of ads, Tim has a methodical interview style, speaks well, and draws applicable conclusions with legendary finesse.
  5. Growth Everywhere. Host Eric Siu runs a slightly less polished version of Entrepreneurs on Fire. He keeps his interview show moving quickly, and guests share about the highs and lows of building successful companies — mostly in the tech sector. New episodes are posted daily.
  6. The Brendan Show. Brendon Burchard spins nothing but positive energy healing, and self-improvement. With a mix of positive rants, excerpts from High Performance Habits, and clips from speaking events, this author and speaker brings fresh perspective and energy to every stage of business and creative activity. While parts of his content might strike some as fluffy, I like his brand of practical, forward-thinking optimism.
  7. The Smart Passive Income Podcast. Pat Flynn is another friendly voice in the same space and style as John Lee Dumas and Eric Siu. As the title suggests, his focus is on the strategies necessary to build passive online revenue streams through blogs, ebooks, online courses, and other forms of scalable content. New podcast episodes appear weekly.
  8. The Brian Buffini Show. With 45-minute episodes released weekly, Brian and Dermot Buffini offer a mix of high-profile interviews and well-prepared content related to building a successful business. As Brian Buffini likes to remind his audience, his personal story includes going from a young immigrant $200,000 in medical debt to building the largest real estate coaching company in the world. Like Gary Vee, this immigrant to America says there’s never been a better time to build a business.
  9. The Blog Millionaire. Host Brandon Gaille delivers short, well-prepared and smoothly delivered content related to building a successful blog. Tips are right to the point and extremely practical: search engine optimization, how to build great headlines, and how to assemble great content efficiently. Gaille also shares honestly about the struggles he’s encountered in his business and personal life, and how he’s overcome them to build a blog with over 1M unique visitors per month.
  10. Side Hustle School. Chris Guillebeau delivers daily stories of side hustle successes — passion projects that cash flow positively and grow to become significant sources of revenue. What this podcast lacks in exciting delivery it makes up for in the tales of people who are finding innovative ways to earn money doing things they love to do.

If you listen to junk radio during your daily commute as I did for many years, try changing things up. Trade the sports news and crappy radio commercials for the kind of quality content that will expand your perspective and give legs to your dreams. If you’re new to podcasting, start exploring the Podcast app (in iOS) or download the Podcast Addict app (in Android) to get started. If you’ve been sitting on a creative dream for a while, it’s time to get started.